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John Carpenter

John Carpenter married Elizabeth Mehitabel TAYLOR, born
Elizabeth, also known as Lizzie, Elizabeth M Lapham, Lizzie M Carpenter as she married twice, first to
George Lapham, 2nd marriage to Ted Carpenter.

Elizabeth 'Lizzie' Mehitabel TAYLOR Lapham
m2. James Carpenter b. 1853
becoming Elizabeth 'Lizzie' Mehitabel TAYLOR Lapham-Carpenter




John Carpenter
Son of

SIBLINGS:


Marriage 1 Elizabeth TAYLOR
CHILDREN:
1.

2. Edwin Carpenter [Lizzie's son by birth [33]]



Elizabeth 'Lizzie' Mehitabel TAYLOR Lapham
m2. John [James-Wrong!] Carpenter b. 1853
becoming Elizabeth 'Lizzie' Mehitabel TAYLOR Lapham-Carpenter

 

This whole branch started when Roy was looking through all the photos again and recognized the name of Carpenter.
It matched the Coney entry on Taylor RnD page.

Carpenter was married before based on writing in a letter by Anna Ballard "...until he was divorced/they married."

"There's quite a bit on Laphamviille (now Rockport I think) in the Westering Laphams. .."
Here's a letter from Pansy (Mrs. Oscar Lapham) to Donna (writer of the Westering Laphams) that alludes to George Gilbert"
...Yes his mother did marry a fellow by the name of Carpenter. I knew her son Ted...

Ted or James may be incorrect first name based on this census which matches Lizzie's parrents
MICHIGAN MARRIAGES
Name: John Carpenter
Age (Expanded): 42 years [John]
Birth Year: 1858 [APR 8, 1857] Birthplace: New York
[Occupation: Sawyer]
[No time marries: no]
Spouse's Name: Lizzie M. Lapham
Spouse's Age (Expanded): 48 years
Spouse's Birth Year: 1852 [1851], Spouse's Birthplace: Ontario
[Housekeeper]
Event Date 26 Jan 1900 Event Place: Gladstone, Delta, Michigan [letter states they were married 1880]
[Residence: Gladstone, MI]
Father's Name: Edwin {Eduiu?] W. Carpenter [Vermont]
Mother's Maidan Name: Mary Daniels [New York]
Spouse's Father's Name: W. S. Taylor
Spouse's Mother's Name: Isabel [Isabella] Slimmins [Slimmons/Sleaman]
[Married by J. Spencer Jewell, Pres. Minister Gladstone]
[Witnesses: Miss N? L. Jewell and Miss M.C. Jewell Gladstone Note: No family]
GS Film number: 2342515 , Digital Folder Number: 4208648 , Image Number: 631 , Reference ID: v 1 p 550 rn 1174
"Michigan Marriages, 1868-1925," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N383-ZG3 : accessed 26 July 2015), John Carpenter and Lizzie M. Lapham, 26 Jan 1900; citing Gladstone, Delta, Michigan, v 1 p 550 rn 1174, Department of Vital Records, Lansing; FHL microfilm 2,342,515. Image of record

OTHER EDWARDS
In this Census they list it as James when it looks more like John. This is what lead to incorrect name of James.

Hold this a possible reference to John's father. Mother (Angline Carpenter) does not match.

An Almira Carpenter Obit- No relation. Husband possibly from Wisconsin

This is the only other record at familysearch of a John born in NY 1857
Edwin Carpenter Father M 39 Loiza Carpenter Wife F 37
Our Edward did not show up in Oregon papers using search - Edward Carpenter. A few Edwins, yet no way to ID.

There is another Lizzie Carpenter married to a John in 1910
age 44 statue: Married Race: Indian Wife b. 1866 Michigan

Found lots of
Edwin W Carpenter findagrave

1. Ted Carpenter
This whole branch started when Roy was looking through all the photos again and recognized the name of Carpenter.
It matched the Coney entry on Taylor RnD page.
3471
Residence of Ted Carpenter, possibly the same Ted, son of Elizabeth TAYLOR (Caroline and jane's sister) and John Carpenter, her 2nd husband. Notice dog in foreground, washboard hanging on the wall, steps to the right, halfway down the plank walkway. Roy had contacted the Historical Soc in this area. They had no match. We do now!
Roy mixed up Elizabeth 2 and 3

3471 back
This led to looking into the following entry.


US Census 1910
Note: John Carpenter's son, Edwin "Eddie" and possibly his wife or sister, Mary E Carpenter. This Census must be wrong, as proven by this death certificate.


MARY E. CARPENTER-Find Relationship
Name Mary E Carpenter Event Type Census Event Year 1920 Event Place Portland, Multnomah, Oregon, United States Source
1920 census shows two children. If our Ted, find marriage date.

Wallace W Carpenter Head M 74 New York
Ellen M Carpenter Wife F 72 Ohio
Mary E Carpenter Daughter F 49 Michigan Source

No. 2 Different parent in same local
Homer V Carpenter Head M 43 Indiana Edith R Carpenter Wife F 36 Oregon Nancy Jane Carpenter Daughter F 10 Oregon Martha A Carpenter Daughter F 5 Oregon Ransom Carpenter Son M 1 Oregon Mary Ellen Carpenter Daughter F 7 Oregon Source
71 Mary Carpenters in Oregon in early 1900.

Father's Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Mother's Birthplace: England
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Ted T Carpenter Head M 48 Washington
Daisy Carpenter Wife F 39 Illinois
Wils H Carpenter Son M 18 Washington
Chester C Carpenter Son M 16 Washington

In a 1930 census, found a Ted T Carpenter
Rainier, Columbia, Oregon, United States
Father's Birthplace: United States Mother's Birthplace: England Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Ted T Carpenter Head M 58 Washington
Ted was married to Daisy Carpenter Wife F 49 Illinois
source

Found this on a Clatskanie, Oregon "Ted Carpenter" search
Name: Ted Carpenter. Birth: abt 1872 - Washington. Residence: 1935 - Rural, Columbia, Oregon. Residence: Clatskanie, Columbia, Oregon
Also
Find 1940 US Census records and images online for Ted Carpenter from Clatskanie, Clatskanie Election Precinct 2 OR enumeration district 5-6.
1940 U.S. Federal Population Census
Ted Carpenter
Age 68
Est Birth 1872 in Washington
Enumerarion District: 5-6
Residence: Clatskanie, Clatskanie Election Precinct 2, Columbia
Relarionship in household: Lodger
Robert King
72 yrs, Male


Eliza King
70 yrs, Female

Salona Culbertson
72 yrs, Female
Married
Lauguage: English
Genealogical Society Number: 005449186
NARA Publication Number: T627
NARA Microfilm Roll Number: 3357
Line Number: 51
Sheet: B
Sheet Number: B
 
Ted Carpenter in the 1940 Census
First Name: Ted
Last Name: Carpenter
Age at Time of Census: 68
Gender: Male
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Estimated Birth Year: 1872
Birth Location: Washington Map
Enumeration District: 5-6
Residence: Clatskanie, Clatskanie Election Precinct 2, Columbia, OR Map
Relationship to Head of Household: Lodger
Other People in Household:

Marital Status: Married
Language: English

Census image for Ted Carpenter 1940 http://www.archives.com/1940-census/ted-carpenter-or-3810610 [NOTE: Use this website as a Resource tool]

 


Census image for Ted Carpenter 1940 http://www.archives.com/1940-census/ted-carpenter-or-3810610 [NOTE: Use this website as a Resource tool]

Ted carpenter census
Smaller image of the Census-Ted Carpenter 1940

Clatskanie, Clatskanie, oregon
Map of where Ted lived

Home in 1940 Main Street Clatskanie, Columbia, Oregon source

 

Found a record that seems to match. There is a Carrie Pratt, which may have married a sibling of George. Right now focus is on immediate family.
George L Pratt, "Michigan, Births, 1867-1902" Name: George L Pratt Birth Date: 25 Jul 1895 Birthplace: Grand Ledge, Eaton, Michigan Gender: Male Race (Original): Father's Name: George B Pratt Father's Birthplace: Michigan Father's Age (Expanded): Mother's Name: Carrie L Pratt Mother's Birthplace: Michigan Mother's Age (Expanded): Christening Date: Christening Place: Informant's Name (Original): Death Date: Age (Expanded): GS Film number: 2322563 Digital Folder Number: 4207245 Image Number: 815 Frame Number: Reference ID: item 2 p 236 rn 398 Source , [5]

Ray Luther Miller, "Oregon, Death Index, 1903-1998" Name: Ray Luther Miller Event Type: Death Event Date: 22 Jul 1987 Event Place: Clackamas, Oregon Age: Birth Date: 25 Jul 1908 Spouse's Name: Norabe Miller
source , [5]

 

Edwin Carpenter

Oregon, Death Index, 1903-1998

death: 6 April 1931 Portland, Oregon
Edwin Carpenter

Oregon, Death Index, 1903-1998

death: 24 May 1938 Clackamas, Oregon
other: Edna Carpenter
Not finding anything on Tim or Edwin. This could be another Edward Carpenter that died w. notice in papers.

JOHN CARPENTERS UNTIMELY DEATH
findagrave - Death Cert
Informant (Mother?) Mrs. E. M. Carpenter 108 1/2 Union.
108 1/2 Union Ave., Portland, Multnomah, Oregon, See here, Looks like it on south side of Columbia reviver dwntwn.

I am still not convinced anything in this posting confirms this is our John! The parents names do seem a match to marriage record at top of this page.


John Carpenter, an employe of a lumber mill at Oak Point, was taken to the Good Samaritan Hospital, suffering from a fracture of the skull, which may result in his death. Carpenter was struck on the head by a splinter of wood from a band saw and rendered unconscious. He is in a most precarious condition.
Article 1 - The Oregon daily journal. (Portland, Or.) 1902-1972, July 19, 1907, Image 9 Image provided by: University of Oregon Libraries; Eugene, OR


Article 2 - Morning Oregonian. (Portland, Or.) 1861-1937, July 24, 1907, Image 13


Article 3 - Morning Oregonian. (Portland, Or.) 1861-1937, July 25, 1907, Image 11, Col. 6 bottom

Article 4 - Morning Oregonian. (Portland, Or.) 1861-1937, July 26, 1907, Image 12, Col. 2. Still no mention of wife. No proof this is our John.
Image provided by: University of Oregon Libraries; Eugene, ORfrom http://oregonnews.uoregon.edu

2. Edwin H. 'Eddie' Carpenter
"Lizzie's [Elizabeth TAYLOR Carpenter] son from her second marriage, Edwin H. (Eddie) Carpenter was born in February 1886 in Michigan" pp 26 ., [33]
Two Edwins died near 1940

Michigan Births
Name Edward W. Carpenter
Birth Date 20 Feb 1886
Birthplace Osceola Twp, Osceola, Michigan
Gender Male
Father's Name John Carpenter Father's Birthplace New York
Mother's Name Eliza Carpenter Mother's Birthplace Ontario
"Michigan Births, 1867-1902," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NQFK-Z77 : accessed 14 August 2015), Edward W. Carpenter, 20 Feb 1886; citing item 2 p 291 rn 76, Osceola Twp, Osceola, Michigan, Department of Vital Records, Lansing; FHL microfilm 2,320,845.
Image of Document

Eyford has Edwin H, and this one is Edward W, which might match his GF. Edwin H does not show on FamilySearch

There is also a John and Eliza Carpenter in Quebec.
There is another Edward Carpenter, married, in this area and this proves not the same as our Edward would have only been 14. Source

Morning enterprise. (Oregon City, Or.) 1911-1933, December 18, 1913, Image 3
Willamette Locals Mr. and Mrs. Edwin Carpenter and children, Frances and Chester, were in Portland Wednesday.


Name John Carpenter
Birthplace New York
Gender Male
Wife Eliza Carpenter
Son Edward W. Carpenter
Other information in the record of Edward W. Carpenter from Michigan Births
Name Edward W. Carpenter
Birth Date 20 Feb 1886
Birthplace Osceola Twp, Osceola, Michigan (MAP)
Gender Male
Father's Name John Carpenter
Father's Birthplace New York
Mother's Name Eliza [Elizabeth/Lizzie] Carpenter
Mother's Birthplace Ontario
"Michigan Births, 1867-1902," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NQFK-Z7W : accessed 14 August 2015), John Carpenter in entry for Edward W. Carpenter, 20 Feb 1886; citing item 2 p 291 rn 76, Osceola Twp, Osceola, Michigan, Department of Vital Records, Lansing; FHL microfilm 2,320,845.
Image of Document

Edwin Carpenter Oregon, Death Index, 1903-1998
death: 6 April 1931 Portland, Oregon

Edwin Carpenter Oregon, Death Index, 1903-1998
death: 24 May 1938
Clackamas, Oregon
other:
Edna Carpenter

Not finding anything on Tim or Edwin

Edwin Wayne Carpenter
Birth: Feb. 20, 1886 Death: Jun. 28, 1940 Portland Multnomah County Oregon, USA
Son of James & Lizzie M Carpenter; Husband of Emily Josephine Reynolds [Why does above marriage record image show John?]

River View Cemetery Portland Multnomah County Oregon, USA Plot: Sec 12, Blk 31, Lot 9, Grave 1 Grave image


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